Wednesday, February 20, 2008

Talk about Plagiarism Let’s Talk Hillary’s 35 Years of Experience

Sen. Clinton wouldn’t plant a story would she?

"If your whole candidacy is about words, those words should be your own. That's what I think."—Sen. Hillary Clinton

Oh Boy! I’d like to be Sen. Obama for just one day and I’d have Sen. Clinton regretting the day that she had the audacity to raise plagiarism as an issue.

Because I’m thinking that if your whole candidacy is about experience that experience ought to be your own. What do you think about that Sen. Clinton? I’m also thinking that Sen. Obama ought to get off of the defensive and challenge Sen. Clinton’s experience meme again like he did earlier in the campaign and then we’d see who the plagiarist is.

Plagiarism is the stealing of another’s ideas as if they were your own. says plagiarism is:


the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work.


something used and represented in this manner.

Let’s focus on the second entry “something used and represent in this manner” and examine Sen. Clinton’s claims of 35 years of relative experience that qualifies her to be President of the United States and I think that the she bull that has been attempting to gore Sen. Obama over a speech that he made may just have to retract her horns.

Now as far I a know Sen. Clinton has never been President or Vice President so she couldn’t be claiming any direct personal experience now could she?

And aside from the denials that the Clinton campaign planted the issue of Sen. Obama committing plagiarism (it's got Clinton stamped all over it) we would not be discussing stealing words, ideas or work experience but it’s the politics of personal destruction yet again.

It makes a person wonder why would someone whose whole candidacy, no, whose whole career is based on her husband’s accomplishments or her husbands misdeeds why would such a person attempt to draw attention to anyone using someone else’s words and claiming them as their own when Sen. Clinton has been claiming her husbands political experience as Governor of Arkansas and President as her own and as the reason that voters should chose her for President.

You must remember Chris Matthews’ comments on the matter of Senator Clinton’s experience.

"[T]he reason she's a U.S. senator, the reason she's a candidate for president, the reason she may be a front-runner is her husband messed around."—Chris Matthews on Senator Hillary Clinton

Sen. Clinton has claimed that her experience as first lady is apart of the experiences that qualify her to be President of the United States a claim which was challenged by Senator Obama initially.
"I think the fact of the matter is that Senator Clinton is claiming basically the entire eight years of the Clinton presidency as her own, except for the stuff that didn't work out, in which case she says she has nothing to do with it,"-- Sen. Barack Obama

Sens Obama and Edwards used this issue quite effectively early on in the campaign and though they differed on how best to exploit the significance of Sen. Clintons claims, they did bring attention to the fact Sen. Clinton experience was not what she claimed.
Senator Barack Obama's decision to challenge Hillary Clinton's claims of governing "experience" stemming from her days as first lady has split her two most aggressive challengers, with Obama suggesting she deserves meager credit for her husband's presidency and John Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, arguing she should be held accountable for its flaws. Sasha Issenberg

Slate’s Timothy Noah takes Sen. Clinton to task about her claims and issues a warning that Republicans will be able to dismantle Mrs. Clinton’s claim of plagiarized governmental experience.
Clinton's claim to superior experience isn't merely dishonest. It's also potentially dangerous should she become the nominee.

If Clinton continues to build her campaign on the dubious foundation of government experience, it shouldn't be very difficult for her GOP opponent to pull that edifice down.

That's especially true if a certain white-haired senator now serving his 25th year in Congress (four in the House and 21 in the Senate) wins the nomination.

McCain could easily make Hillary look like an absolute fraud who is no more truthful about her depth of government experience than she is about why her mother named her "Hillary."
>Timothy Noah

I don’t think that the Clinton campaign really thought this recent attack on Obama through it opens Sen. Clinton up once again to questions about what experience is really hers and what experience has been borrowed from her husband.

Sadly Senator Clinton has only had about eight years as an elected politician with very little accomplishments to speak of and no executive experience at all Sen. Obama has more than that! Yet by her count she has 35 years of experience which qualifies her to be President.

Here’s one place that I agree with an idea of Sen. Clinton’s, that is if someone is going to claim experience as the basis for their candidacy it should be their own experience not the experience that you’ve plagiarized from your spouse.


  1. Anonymous6:45 AM

    If Hillary is trading upon her experience as First "Lady", we need to know what she actually learned as First "Lady" to get my vote. Also, she needs to show the relavancy of this experience.

    Did she acquire a proficiency at performing kinky sex acts in an Administration known for its "exotic tastes"? Just how will this "talent" help in Matters of State, such as Foriegn Policy?

    Will Hillary be able to appease, and otherwise get on the good side of, officials like Achmadinijad or Musharrif with this "job skill"?

    Will she be able to coax Osama bin Ladin out of hiding with this "talent"?

    Just how will this "ability" be used to impress the Queen of England?

    Have I missed anything, or have I correctly summarized Hillary's work experience as First "Lady"?

  2. The only thing you've missed Anon was the secrets locked up in the Clinton library on Hillary's years in the White house

    These detailed accounts won't be availible for viewing until much after the election per Bill and Hillary.

    So you didn't so much miss anything the docs were not availible so we've all missed something!

  3. Anonymous9:20 AM


    I have a tough decision coming up during the Texas Primary (and I think RC has having similar thoughts).

    McCain is inevitable, so my vote won't matter for the GOP. I can vote as a Democrat, where my vote matters.

    Do I vote for Hillary to stop the Obama Juggernaut? (Is Obama already so compromised that he can't win in November, making Obama the better choice.)

    Do I cast a revenge vote against Hillary to finally end the Clinton Era.

    Do I await further developments with the hope that Hillary will come crawling to the Right to save her political buttox?

    It's tough in Texas deciding how to vote in the Primary. What do you suggest?

  4. Anon,
    You do have a tough decision to make. If I were in your shoes I'd vote Obama.

    To me Clinton represents the status quo (as does McCain) and being that I'm in a anti-establishment mood I'm thinking throw the bums out.

    I'm looking for change too. This country is governed by Liberal elitist by social contract meaning that most of our policies have strong left tendencies.

    Everything from entertainment to schools and universities to the way we do business caters to the left.

    In my opinion we don't need to laurch further to the left we need a hard turn to the right to correct 40 years of liberal policies and social tendencies.

    That is why John McCain is unacceptable, he and the Conservative establishment have bought into Leftist ideology too.

    If you look at Europe they have already began to correct themselves by voting for more Conservative politicans, ie France and Germany. England is still lost.

    Apparently America hasn't gotten the memo yet!

    Good luck with your decision!

  5. Anonymous2:11 PM

    I thnk I'll go for Obama for two reasons:

    1) I have it in fro CLinton.

    2) Clinton will double cross Obama.

    t still haven't figured out how I'm going to get at McCain. Guess I'll have to put up with him . . . With one foot securely in the Grave and the other on a Banana Peel, maybe it's for the best . . . .

  6. All decisions are difficult ones, unless you are an idiot!

    As for me, NEITHER Hillary nor Obama will do. She has so much baggage that she needs her own check-room. He has no baggage, because he lives in a fantasy world.

    McCain pegged him directly and correctly, when he gave his victory speech last night. "Eloquent rhetoric, without substance"

    Sorry guys, but McCain, even as part of the "establishment", has my vote.


  7. Anonymous4:41 AM


    Right now, I'm seeking out how to make my vote do the most good in the Texas Primary. McCain, with a locked up nomination, doesn't matter. It's between Hillary and Obama. Its a choice between giving Hillary one more dying gasp or possibly giving her a greatly devalued nomination and finishing her off once and for all.

    I'm going to hold my nose while I vote for McCain this Fall. I hope he selects Rice for VP, in which case I can only hope that the smell is that of rigor mortis.

    One step at a time. Right now, I'm leaning towards Hillary because of the Revenge Factor. I can change my mind again in 5 minutes. Of such is the natur of the Texas Primary.