Tuesday, September 15, 2009

With respect to Decorum, You Lie Mr. President!

In an astonishing admission the White House’s policy change let it be known without a doubt that Congressman Joe Wilson’s concerns had merit. Congressman Wilson was right, you lie Mr. President. Last Friday night the White House publicized that it is backing a provision that would require proof of citizenship before someone could enroll in its proposed Health Care plan. That is huge! It is proof that one lone courageous voice speaking truth to power can in fact make a difference.

Minus Joe Wilson’s voice President Barry Soetoro and Democrats would have been allowed to continue the farce that illegal aliens would not benefit from government imposed public health care.

Democrats intended to allow coverage for illegals the same way they enforce American borders, through non-enforcement of the law. Though there are laws against illegal entry into this country those laws aren’t enforced therefore 40 million illegals live, work and vote in America.

Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer of CNSNews.com reports, Robert Rector, senior fellow on domestic policy at The Heritage Foundation, told an audience at the National Press Club in Washington.

Title II, Subtitle C, Section 246 of the House health care bill (H.R. 3200) stipulates “no federal payment for undocumented aliens.” The Senate bill states that beneficiaries of federal health care programs must be a citizen or national or an alien lawfully admitted to the United States.

But neither bill has a provision for verifying citizenship status, according to these experts. (see source)

That is exactly like Article II Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution which reads:

“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President…”

Because the Constitutional statute has no provision for verifying citizenship status, it is possible for a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States to become president. Possible because there is not a clearly defined remedy outlined in law to prevent that person from taking office. But we wouldn’t go there right now.

Yet after accepting the apology of Congressman Joe Wilson the White House virtual admitted that the Congressman was right. After all of the Liberal pundits pronouncements that the President was right and after all of the so called proofs that these pundits produced the White House undermined all of that by announcing that they will back legislation that will have specific language that would require proof of citizenship before someone could enroll in a plan selected on the exchange.

According to Mike Viqueira the bullet points sent by the White House:

• Undocumented immigrants would not be able to buy private insurance on the exchange. Those who are lawfully present in this country would be able to participate.
• Undocumented immigrants would be able to buy insurance in the non-exchange private market, just as they do today. That market will shrink as the exchange takes hold, but it will still exist and will be subject to reforms such as the bans on pre-existing conditions and caps.
• Verification will be required when purchasing health insurance on the exchange. One option is the SAVE program (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) which states currently use to make sure that undocumented immigrants don't participate in safety-net programs for which they are ineligible.
• There would be no change in the law that requires emergency rooms to treat people who need emergency care, including undocumented immigrants. There is already a federal grant program that compensates states for emergency room costs associated with treatment of undocumented immigrants, a provision sponsored by a Republican lawmaker. (see source)

This all would not have come into being without the lone true voice of Congressman Joe Wilson apparently the only person in Congress that knows a lie when he hears it and the only one brave enough to say it when it counts!

Kudos Congressman! I for one am sending you money to fight the George Soros funded attacks against you. I would hope that readers would do that too!

Oh but that was not the only lie you told Mr. President. Following is a Standard Newswire fact check of your speech full of lies:

WASHINGTON, Sept. 10 /Standard Newswire/ --

CLAIM: "...[N]othing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have."

FACT: This marked an important change in the President's language last night. He used to say, "If you like your health-care plan, you keep your health-care plan." By now using the word "require," the President's admitting that they can't guarantee Americans will keep their health plan. After both the Associated Press, ABC News and others have thoroughly debunked this claim, it's not surprising the White House has made this shift. But the point is that no one knows for sure how many employers will drop their coverage altogether if their plan goes into effect. Experts at the Lewin Group estimate the number could be more than 100 million Americans. And $500 billion in Medicare cuts will obviously reduce the quality of care America's seniors receive.

CLAIM: "The plan will not add to our deficit...I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits -- either now or in the future. Period."

FACT: According to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, the House Democrats' bill would increase the deficit by $239 billion over 10 years. And a recent study by the Lewin Group found that "[i]n the second 10 years...the proposal would add an estimated $1 trillion to the federal deficit."

CLAIM: "(I)t will slow the growth of health care costs for our families, our businesses, and our government."

FACT: As the Associated Press has reported, the Democrats' plan will increase costs, rather than lower them: "Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf warned lawmakers the legislation that he has seen so far would raise costs, not lower them."

CLAIM: "f you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen. My door is always open."

FACT: The Hill reported yesterday, that the President has not met with House Republicans since April, and when Republican Leaders asked for a meeting to discuss health care in a May 14 letter, the President ignored the request. The Politico reported on the President' response on June 5, saying, "he makes no mention of the request to meet in the letter," which he signs off by stating, "Thank you again for sharing your thoughts with me and I look forward to further discussions on this critically important issue." But those "further discussions" simply didn't happen. The facts are clear: blame for the lack of bipartisanship in the current health care debate lies squarely at the feet of Washington Democrats.

CLAIM: "I will not stand by while the special interests use the same old tactics to keep things exactly the way they are."

FACT: This is an interesting assertion considering the President also said last night: "Our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of doctors and nurses; hospitals, seniors' groups and even drug companies." So what special interests is he talking about when the White House seems to have struck back room deals with so many of them?

CLAIM: "We've estimated that most of this plan can be paid for by finding savings within the existing health care system -- a system that is currently full of waste and abuse."

FACT: The massive $1.6 trillion House bill's cost is NOT mostly "paid for" through savings in the existing health care system -- not by a long shot. In fact, the House bill includes more than $800 billion in new tax increases during a severe economic downturn on families and employers to "pay for" most of the massive price tag.

And, the Congressional Budget Office has estimated that even with these tax increases, coupled with other "pay fors" in the bill such as cuts to Medicare, the House bill still has a revenue shortfall that will add $239 billion to the federal deficit over a ten year period. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce wrote in an open letter to Congress raising concerns about a $534 billion small business tax in July: "Even with some exemptions, this provision will kill many jobs. Market forces and employer autonomy should determine what benefits employers provide, rather than Congress."

CLAIM: "And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up -- under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place."

FACT: During his quest for the presidency, now-President Obama declared that everyone deserves access to reproductive health care that includes abortion, and vowed that this "right" would be at the heart of his health care reform plan if elected president. President Obama has never retracted this vow, and the health care reform bill moving through the House would help him make good on it if enacted into law. As written, it would allow the U.S. Secretary of Health & Human Services (HHS) to include abortion as a benefit in the government-run health care option.

Many Democrats dispute this, pointing to the recent adoption of an amendment sponsored by Rep. Lois Capps (D-CA) that would prohibit federal dollars from being used to fund abortion. But under this amendment, the HHS Secretary is explicitly authorized to pay for elective abortions under the government-run insurance plan.

Some have also suggested that the government-run plan would not result in government-funded abortions because it will be subject to the "Hyde Amendment," but this argument is misleading as well. The Hyde Amendment is not a government-wide applied law, but a rather provision included in the annual HHS Appropriations bill, which bans federal funding of elective abortions. According to a memo produced by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, the government-option will not be funded through the appropriations process. For this reason, it will not be subject to the Hyde Amendment.

The truth of the matter is that the HHS Secretary will be allowed to include abortion as a benefit in the government-run health care plan under the legislation currently moving through the House. Moreover, FactCheck.Org has stated that the "House bill would allow abortions to be covered by a federal plan and by federally subsidized private plans."

CLAIM: "Now, there are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms I am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

FACT: The non-partisan Congressional Research Service confirms in a report that there is no mechanism included in the bill to verify that individuals are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants before they receive government benefits. Furthermore, Republicans offered two amendments in the Ways and Means, and Energy and Commerce Committees that were rejected by Democrats. The first would have prevented illegal immigrants from being automatically enrolled into Medicaid and the second would have required better screening for applicants for federally-subsidized health care to ensure they are actually citizens or legal immigrants. (source)


  1. Anonymous8:00 AM

    hmmm.... wow... The bill specifically said that only legal US citizens would be allowed to be covered... Now you are going to go about saying that a bill that excludes all legal immigrants (those with green-card status) will be excluded is proof that, despite clear language in the bill itself that it excludes illegals, was in fact designed to include illegals.... do you ever read what you write out loud before you post it?

  2. More importantly I read between the lines and I read the actions of the megalomaniacal Marxist Socialist that occupies the White House, who uses language and meaning to control and manipulate by using what's not said or written just as much as what is said or written.

    Frankly your one dimensional defenses of your god and savior, Obama are puny, boring and quite ineffective.

    Do you ever take the time to read what you write out loud before you knee jerk post a defense for the indefensible?

  3. Anonymous3:25 PM

    "Congressman Wilson was right, you lie Mr. President."

    Huh? Where is the lie? President Obama said the bill he will sign will state that illegal aliens will not be welcome in the public-health insurance plan. And the White House reiterated that that is the case.

    Stick to birther nonsense.

  4. Anonymous3:30 PM

    "Because the Constitutional statute has no provision for verifying citizenship status, it is possible for a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States to become president."

    Yeah, right. As if political candidates don't vet the heck out of their opponents. Jeez, someone should've told Hilary and McCain they should've looked into Obama's past. I'm sure they didn't think to do that.

    Alaphiah, you are precious.

  5. Anon,
    You are such an Uncreditable historical revisionist that you make me laugh!

  6. Anonymous3:49 PM

    Revisionist? This is what the President said:

    "There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false - the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

    Would you kindly tell your readers what you think the President said when Joe Wilson exclaimed, "You lie!"

  7. Oh that’s right Anon I forgot that you didn’t read HR 3200 and neither did you read the explanation that I gave previously on this post.

    Allow me to do some remedial teaching for you because my readers already know this stuff.

    First I have already explained, Democrats intended to allow coverage for illegals the same way they enforce American borders, through non-enforcement of the law. Though there are laws against illegal entry into this country those laws aren’t enforced therefore 40 million illegals live, work and vote in America.

    In the case of HR 3200 this would have been made possible by two opposite and opposing statues within HR 3200. One which apparently you are familiar with which reads:

    Title II, Subtitle C, Section 246 of the House health care bill (H.R. 3200) stipulates “no federal payment for undocumented aliens.”

    And one which you are not familiar with, which would offset and make completely void Title II, Subtitle C, Section 246 by the contradictory statue (H.R. 3200) Section 152 of the House health care bill which reads:


    (a) In General.—Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.

    Analyst agree with me they say that “the health care reform bills Congress is considering would not require people who sign up for government health care programs to verify their eligibility.”

    See link http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52765

    That is why Wilson rose and stated, “You lie!” and that is why the administration came out with the statement last Friday night that they will write new legislation that will explicitly denied Illegals access to Health Care Reform.

    This president has already proven himself duplicitous. That is why the American people don’t trust him. Not to mention Anon that you have proven yourself duplicitous as well!

    That is why you are no longer a creditable source on this site. I only offer the explanation out of the goodness of my heart. I will not suffer insolence from a proven Obama shill who attempts to argue points to obfuscate rather than clarify what truth is.

  8. Anonymous6:23 PM

    The truth? The truth is -- Obama has not yet signed any version of this bill. And he is not going to sign a bill that gave public health insurance to aliens. It was true before the speech, during the speech and after the speech.

  9. Hey Alaphiah,

    Your resident Obama shill is just like his
    master. We are supposed to be gullible and
    stupid enough to accept everything that they
    say at face value. What is, is and Obama is
    a proven liar!