Wednesday, August 11, 2010

California Republican Congressman Bilbray Creates Birth Certificate Controversy


No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President—Article II Section 1 U.S. Constitution
One of the greatest lessons that I learned from the 2008 presidential elections was that Democrats would rather elect a constitutionally ineligible foreign-born enemy of this country and its constitution rather than elect a Republican. Even if that Republican was a “Republican in name only” and even if that Republican self ascribes himself as a Maverick, which is code for “I screw Republicans over all the time just like you Democrats.”

I fully expect the usual suspects the Lindsey Grahams, the Susan Collins, the Olympia Snows and the Scott Browns to stab Republicans in the front (so often it’s not the back anymore) but what I didn’t expect is someone that I supported and voted for to stab Republicans in the back.

Yet stabbed in the back, is exactly how I felt when I read reported in that Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-CA) made the claim that there's no need for the president to have been born in the United States – or to have two parents who are U.S. citizens – to be a "natural born citizen" and be eligible for the Oval Office. (see article)

I didn’t believe it. I, I, couldn’t believe it. So I dropped what I was doing logged on to Congressman Bilbray’s website and found his Washington phone number and before I knew it, my fingers were dialing. (Bilbray’s website)

A young man answered the phone and after I identified myself as one of Congressman Bilbray’s constituents, I expressed my consternation about what I read on the WND site. The young man who later identified himself as Joe Williamson (after I asked his name) launched into a run-on sentence defense of the Congressman’s position without so much as taking a breath or letting me get another word in edgewise.

I was told that the Congressman’s office had seen the birth certificate that the State of Hawaii released and that they had seen Congressional record that proved that Barry Hussein Soetoro was a citizen.

After Mr. Williamson concluded his defense, I told him that he had not seen an original birth certificate of Mr. Soetoro. I told him that up until this point, I supported Mr. Bilbray and voted for him but I now was officially withdrawing my support.

Mr. Williamson then volunteered someone who he identified as the person who was actually handling this topic for Mr. Bilbray and asked if I would like to speak with him. I consented and the phone was handed off.

When the next man spoke, I asked to whom I was speaking. He identified himself as Jeff Post. I expressed my dismay to Mr. Post about the article in WND and the conversation that I had just had with Mr. Williamson. Mr. Post who sounded very young (they both sounded twenty-something), I asked his age. Twenty-five he answered. And then Mr. Post began to express the conviction that Mr. Bilbray’s office investigated the birth certificate matter and they had information and thus concluded that the president is a citizen. I told Mr. Post also, that Mr. Bilbray had just lost a supporter and that I would be blogging about our conversation then ended the call.

I sat there for a minute not believing that after two years of investigating this topic myself how a Republican U.S. Congressman and his staff would be so ignorant about the Constitutional requirement to be president of the United States. How could they be so ignorant about the over one million dollar effort of Barry Hussein Soetoro. It was an effort to keep the American people from knowing the truth about his citizenship status.

Below are some but not all of posting that cover two years of investigation of the president’s ineligibility:

Army Officer refuses to show Proof of Birth until CIC shows his

NPR and the Nigerian Observer reported in 2008 Obama Kenyan Born

I am an American I have the right to debate and disagree

Ask and Tell Military Hero Faces Government Wrath

Obama again shows he’s obsessed with “Birthers”

Pelosi is at the center of Obama’s eligibility Question

Na na na na na you have no Standing!

Obama eyes One term rather than release sealed Birth Certificate

Say it Loud, “I’m a Birther and Proud!”

Stupid is as stupid does!

Obama’s Original Birth Certificate has been Destroyed

Why Obama’s Birth Certificate Matters

Obama a One Term President without a Birth Certificate

Great will be the fall of the house of Obama

I have the Right to know if Barack Hussein Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS

Justice Roberts promised publicly to hear Obama’s eligibility

He’s Doing the Job that the Judiciary and the Legislative Branches wouldn’t do!

The Obama Constitutional Crisis is Here!


Once, Twice, Three times a President

And now an Usurper

Obama is investigator, judge and jury; Finds Himself Not Guilty

Schwarzenegger Next?

Scandal plagued Obama should show Birth Certificate and fire Emanuel

December 15, 2008


An Obama Presidency a National Security Risk?

Democrats and Obama Knowingly Are Causing Constitutional Crisis for Change

What is most disappointing is one would think that we would not have to explain to a so called Republican why the Birth Certificate matter is so relevant to Americans who value the Constitution. But for the sake of Rep. Bilbray, Mr. Williamson, Mr. Post and all of you that don’t know how important this matter is allow me to explain once again.

The question has to do with Mr. Soetoro’s eligibility to serve as president of the United States. According to the Constitution Mr. Soetoro would have had to be a Natural born citizen not a naturalized citizen. So what does that mean?

Before the Constitution, the closest reference we have to Natural Born Citizen is from the legal treatise “the Law of Nations,” written by Emerich de Vattel in 1758. In book one chapter 19,

§ 212. Of the citizens and natives.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it.

The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

We know by Mr. Soetoro own admission that his father was not a citizen of the United States of America therefore he is a foreigner who owes his allegiance to another country as demonstrated by his constant tampering in Kenya’s (his father’s born country and perhaps his) electoral matters.

WND reported the Obama administration spent $23 million of U.S. taxpayer money to support the "Yes" vote ratifying the new Kenyan constitution, which coincided with Obama's Aug. 4 birthday.-- Jerome R. Corsi

President Soetoro just gifted Kenya 23 million U.S. taxpayers’ dollars, money to affect the outcome of a Kenyan vote. (see story)

Clearly Mr. Soetoro has a dual allegiance that is exactly what the Founding Fathers for over two hundred years where attempting to prevent but just recently have failed due to the Soetoro presidency.

This is explained quite thoroughly by the following post entitled, PROOF – OBAMA’S ACKNOWLEDGED DUAL CITIZENSHIP MEANS NEVER ELIGIBLE TO BE POTUS – INFO ALWAYS IN PLAIN SIGHT –

Also from John M. Yinger’s The Origins and Interpretation of the Presidential Eligibility Clause in the U.S. Constitution: Why Did the Founding Fathers Want the President To Be a "Natural Born Citizen"

Is found two extraordinary reasons why the Constitutional requirement, “Natural Born Citizen” was intended.

1. The John Jay Letter where Mr. Jay wrote, “Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen (emphasis in the original).(5)”
2. Madison's Convention Notes where it is written: the ministers of foreign powers would have and make use of, the opportunity to mix their intrigues & influence with the Election. Limited as the powers of the Executive are, it will be an object of great moment with the great rival powers of Europe who have American possessions, to have at the head of our Governmt a man attached to their respective politics and interests. (source)

Unfortunately it is as the Founders feared. A president who is not a Natural born citizen as president Soetoro, has interest in his homeland as Mr. Soetoro has demonstrated by sending American tax dollars there to affect voting in Kenya’s constitution as I stated above. This dual allegiance is not good for the United States. If we can even say, because there is a question, that this president has allegiance to this country at all.

Here is what we know and is not disputed, president Soetoro’s history; school records, passport and birth certificate all of the information would lift the cloud of suspicion from his presidency are sealed so that Americans cannot see who is really in their House. President Soetoro has spent a small fortune to keep the American people from knowing his secret life.

Finally we have some disloyal and some ignorant politicians on both sides of the aisle who are aiding and abetting this president and his Party’s destruction of the constitution.

Brian Bilbray and his staff fit in that category somewhere, either disloyal to the constitution, ignorant of what the Constitution means or ignorant of the danger that an Usurper poses for this country. Either one of these choices are of no use to the Republican Party at this most crucial time in our history. (see article)

We need real social-fiscal Republicans to replace the Trent Lott, George Bush, John McCain clueless Republicans with Republicans who know how to protect and defend the Constitution and aren’t afraid to do it.

If Bilbray doesn’t correct this PR disaster he should expect no welcoming treatment from citizens who are determined to rid our country of the Soetoros, Pelosis and Reids.

We can and will add Bilbray to that list when we take out the trash in 2012 and 2014!


  1. Well, you lost when you let Jeff Post center the discussion on Obama's citizenship.

    It's not about Obama's citizenship. It's about his eligibility, and those are two different issues.

  2. Yes a tactical error on my part. However, I was dumbfounded that I would have to resort to such things speaking with a Republican Congressman's office.

    Yet there is no excuse I should have been prepared.
    Cheers and good health to you Beckwith

  3. Anonymous12:45 PM

    Glad to see you're still on the birtherism rants. Keep it up. It's a clear winner for the Republican party.

  4. Anonymous11:53 AM

    I'm kind of curious as to what you expected from the office. They told you that they inspected the birth certificate and that it was authentic. They have done their job and are passing on the information to you, their constituent. Do you expect the president of the United States to come to your house and personally show you his original birth certificate?

  5. It was one of those you had to be there experiences. Both guys had rote stock responses. Plus they were highly defensive.

    I suppose that I would have liked a reasoned discussion rather than a defensive fight. If you know what I mean. They were on the defensive at the start. Made me feel uncomfortable with what they were saying.

    Like I said, I voted for Bilbray and supported him in the past. But these young 20 somethings I don't trust.

    They didn't sound convincing. It was like they where coached to expect fall out and were prepared to just read a script.